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yea wars shuoldnt have to use their abilities unless they have to. Basically just taunt and hit lol. Abilities are for soloing and dueling i think.

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yes but thats not for all the tanks..some want to end the fight really fast and use there mana...others dont have alot and need to spare it throughout the battle

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yea some wars have some nice pow more than my shammy even

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yeah my 33war has a lot more than my 31 sha....it by a good 600...lol

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i think str gives warrs pow if i remmeber correctly

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ummm yeah i think lol....but dont Defs have really high power?....so maybe its sta.....idk lol

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no i think its pow cause when my bro adds str to his warr he gets more pow too. I havent used tps on my war in a long time so im not sure.

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Str and sta both give power.Sta gives more power than str but str does help.I want to say I had near 8k(7.8kish) power on my sk when he was a savage with 600 str/sta.Currently as a dk with no str maxes he has about 6500 pow.

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dam lol Shad only has like 6300 pow. I can easily get my hp up to 8500 tho =P

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ooooo think your al special because you can get your HP to 8500...lol......no umm thats like really high way to go lol

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yea with my bear form, avatar, and vessel spirit lol. Plus without vessel i have like 7200hp anyway. i have 420 sta atm and trying to get sta max cms. my cha is like 520 and my wis is around 480 or higher i forget

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nice stats

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I tried 525 agi on my dk still didnt seem to help any with damage.I'm going back to 5 def mods and uping his hp.



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i wonder why, ive always been told that 'tanks' should have a decent amount of AGI(300+) to help them with the hits they take lol

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i hav pally now fistandantilus win u get pass lvl 40 it rocks going crusader tag str 200 dex 125 thin put tp in sta kik up hp hi as u can stil not shr how meny tp in 2 cha i her sum pallys hav 575 cha like 2 find out how thay get cha that hi with out having a lo hp cont my basse at 44 str 150 sta 163dex 125 cha 172 curr ac 1287 hp 3072 pow 3255 now curr is with gear not with buff like 2 find out wut pally basses r set up at lvl 60 it giv sum thing 2 go by lol buy u will like your pally aft lvl 40 need sum pallys 2 pot thar input not much info on eq forms

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i hav pally now fistandantilus win u get pass lvl 40 it rocks going crusader tag str 200 dex 125 thin put tp in sta kik up hp hi as u can stil not shr how meny tp in 2 cha i her sum pallys hav 575 cha like 2 find out how thay get cha that hi with out having a lo hp cont my basse at 44 str 150 sta 163dex 125 cha 172 curr ac 1287 hp 3072 pow 3255 now curr is with gear not with buff like 2 find out wut pally basses r set up at lvl 60 it giv sum thing 2 go by lol buy u will like your pally aft lvl 40 need sum pallys 2 pot thar input not much info on eq forms




well going by your stats, your raising a well rounded tank, but this is only gonna get you so far, lol now is the time to pick, a MT pally or a regular grp pally...and since your going crusader right?.


__Crusader can be a solo or group/back up tank mc, The requiremenst for it are 200 strength, 125 dexterity, 500 cms spent, Religious Zeal 4, and Glorious Cry 4. It gives you str max +50, hp max +500, OF mod +2. The mcas you get from it are Crusader's Aura, which is a heal that heals your entire group everytime that you are struck. Erollisi's Favor, which gives you a 30% charisma modifier on your heals. __


id say, get your Str 250 ish, then raise your dex to the 125(try to buy this mostly in cms if you can dont pass 125, id say the dex gizmo on a tank is pointless, and the only reason heros have dex is so they have that 'chance' to hit higher.

then raise STA, this is gonna be your main stat so get this semi high. now isthe time to choose if you want any wis, for wis is your resist but on a pally it is also a nuke modifier for your undead spells. i suggest get atleast 150wis base and stop there with the TPS, now raise it up with CMS. now your PROC spells are CHA modified, so if you want to have a decent PROC hit get CHA decent...at least 150, then raise it with CMS...or go even higher with the base, its up to you, for its your heal modifier as well, but how many times are you gonna need to heal yourself?

now a 60pallys stats, now im gonna only guess, but from what ive read and typed down it should look like this..now these are just bases


Sta-350--just raise this one up,lol its your main power pool.

Str-200--this is your regualr DMG, since oyu cant quad and have no 'good' direct attacks its not needed, so just raise it with cms and as few TPS as you can, so you can do decent DMG,and it modifies your taunt, but to really use this youll have to raise it as in the high 300s.but with your heals you needed worry about losing aggro to much lol.

Agi-250--This will help you take hits a little better.

Dex-125--- Max 150, PLZ do not get your dex any higher, its a waste lol.

Wis-200---this is your undead DMG,so you might want it higher.

Cha-250-higher if oyu want a higher PROC abd heal, its all up to you, but a CHa of 250 is not that bad to be at.

now you might want something higher, i was jsut going by a rough scetch, but nontheless your pally at 60 should look something if not higher in stats like this exp. i rally hope i helped lol, i dont have a pally so i had to do some homework lol.

alright if anyone wants to disagree with me about the dex thing, i just wanna add this...a SK and Pally get only the DBL strike right? and a war gets the quad, so if it rarely works on a tank that hits 4 times, its gonna be even suckier on a tank that hits only twice...sure youll get a higher hit sometimes but are you willing to add something on a 'sometimes'?


Edit:T, Cel and Shad(and whoever else has a tank past 50+) can yous list down your tanks base stats plz. because i wanna see if the 'suggested' stats i listed are exactly helpfull. becasue i thinnk i listed to put WAY to much agi for a base lol.



RE:Edit: Alright since theres all this talk about pallys i dug up this post on pallys, this was a toon who had a idea for a support only pally let me know what you think about this, now remember this toon would be Pl'd to 60 and only used for this emergency alone(when tank needs this) here it is...



I've got an idea for a Pally. Mostly for support, which in every raid, you'll need. Don't go too hard on me with comments, it's only an idea.
Okay, so I know a Pally is a tank an all, but, I believe with the right gear, they can be sick supports. Here's the idea: Start off with an Eru Pally, build normally. As you reach 55+ add to cha, much as you can/think you can. The idea here is to be able to max it, as best you can. The idea in this is to be able to take care of heals, so the MHs don't have to, and so there's a lesser need for healers.
Next step, which is our path, is to follow the AC line. This will help those who can't protect themselves so well (i.e. Casters and some Melee) And it'll add on to the tanks AC if called for.
Now comes for the MC, this will sound strange, but bear with me. Go Scholar. In this, you can keep the MT going, because, as a lot of you know, most defenders don't have too good of a powerpool.



I personally dont think this is a bad idea.







-- Edited by Fistandantilus at 22:43, 2006-07-26

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